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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #100 on: October 21, 2011, 07:39:59 AM »
What battery do you recommend to use with your .44 boost mod. Need to pick up another battery.

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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #101 on: October 21, 2011, 08:16:54 AM »
That's funny, someone just asked me the same question yesterday.
They said that they used a 3.7v Trustfire 900mah and it worked great in my .44 boost mod.
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They tried an Ultrafire (blue covered) marked as 3.6v and it didn't work.
No Good:

I personally only tried the Flame Trustfire 900mah and I get 6 to 7 1/2 hours with them.
There are more expensive batteries that are said to be better but I haven't tried them. Batteries like AW 14500 and IMR 14500 (high drain)

Update:
Purchased an AW IMR 14500. Best performance achieved using this battery due to the higher "C" rating. But shorter run time. Got 0.5 more amps. I would recommend these over the fore-mentioned

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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #102 on: October 21, 2011, 09:25:24 AM »
Good question ... flames work fine in my VV mods, but AW's must provide lots more current, have blown 2 CE2's with the AW's during building.

Think the circuit protection in the flames avoid over-heating the coils ??? That's just a guess  :idea:

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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #103 on: October 23, 2011, 10:23:21 AM »
I've also heard that the 14500 ultafires have been a problem.
For the price and performance, the Flame Trustfires are good IMHO.
Can't justify the extra cost for AW's.

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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #104 on: October 23, 2011, 12:19:15 PM »
Hi breaktru and everyone! I just got all the parts to build myself my first 04050 booster but I can't find the resistor to Vout table with and without diode anymore. I'm sad...  :crying: help anyone? Thanking in advance :begging:

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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #105 on: October 23, 2011, 01:46:27 PM »
Hi breaktru and everyone! I just got all the parts to build myself my first 04050 booster but I can't find the resistor to Vout table with and without diode anymore. I'm sad...  :crying: help anyone? Thanking in advance :begging:

PM sent............

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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #106 on: October 26, 2011, 10:22:03 PM »
Very nice!! I think Dave deserves a thank you for putting this back up. Just wonder where the heck you find all this time.

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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #107 on: October 27, 2011, 03:31:30 PM »
YouTube Video of TWO .44 Mini Boost Mods with two different voltage ranges..  :thumbsup:


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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #108 on: October 27, 2011, 04:33:15 PM »
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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #109 on: October 28, 2011, 05:47:25 PM »
A certain member of ECF doubted the performance of the booster mod with a load attached and wasn't impressed.
Here is a YouTube Video that shows the voltages with and without a load attached............


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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #110 on: October 28, 2011, 06:40:43 PM »
What?

No background VooDoo Child!!??

Common Dave....

We all wanna hear you play VooDoo Child from your Glory Days as a Cult Leader/Lead Guitarist!!

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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #114 on: November 05, 2011, 11:32:22 PM »
Okay, so I broke down and bought an AW IMR 14500. I wanted to see what all the hype was about.
Do they perform better? Cranks out 0.34 more amperage. A little bit noticeable.
Battery life is half of what the Trustfire gives me.
My Trustfire flames are 900mah. (7 hour vape time)
The AW IMR is 600mah. (4 hour vape time) Wish they came w/ more mahs.
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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #115 on: November 06, 2011, 12:02:45 AM »
Okay, so I broke down and bought an AW IMR 14500. I wanted to see what all the hype was about.
Do they perform better? Cranks out 0.34 more amperage. Not really noticable.
Battery life is half of what the Trustfire gives me.
My Trustfire flames are 900mah.
The AW IMR is 600mah. Wish they came w/ more mahs.

Most of the xxxxFire batteries tend to overrate there mAh ratings. I also think the IMR's are a bit over hyped from what I have read.

You should try the AW ICR (black w/silver label and red stripe). Although I do find the Trusfire flames to be a decent battery my 3 year old AW ICR's outperform them and are capable of supplying more current.
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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #116 on: November 08, 2011, 05:48:13 PM »
please pm me the new resistor -voltage range table, please? can't find it on the post

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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #117 on: November 10, 2011, 09:33:33 AM »
I find the high drain battery is a better choice. I notice that a lot of the boost mods shown on vendor sites recommend using the high drains. The down side is the battery time is less that the Trustfires.
I had problems with the UltraFires cutting out. I wouldn't be surprised if they where knock offs under the wrapper.
I recommend the AW IMR 14500, 600mah. SuperT has them for $6.69 with a $1.35 shipping fee.
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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #120 on: November 16, 2011, 03:48:17 PM »
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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #121 on: November 25, 2011, 12:10:41 PM »
Not sure what im missing -- im sure its here somewhere but I cant find the resistor chart. Can someone kindly point me in the right direction.

Thanks, Devon

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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #122 on: November 25, 2011, 09:02:48 PM »
Tolerance of resistors and trimmer will effect your Voltage Range Results
Use the parts shown in image below for an OUTPUT voltage range of approximatly 3.79v to 6.2v ... circuit visible to members only........
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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #123 on: November 26, 2011, 01:52:36 PM »
 :thankyou: breaktru! That's a really nice find. Will it still put out max 2.4amps?

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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #124 on: November 26, 2011, 01:55:47 PM »
Thanks Breaktru -- Now I just need to figure out how to stuff all of this in my tube mod. I dont want to walk around with a foot of pvc in my hand :no:

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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #125 on: November 26, 2011, 02:17:16 PM »
Thanks Breaktru -- Now I just need to figure out how to stuff all of this in my tube mod. I dont want to walk around with a foot of pvc in my hand :no:

Devon

Devon, did you see how I stuffed this circuit w/ a digital pot circuit in a tube? "Vari Volt Booster Regulator w/ Digital Pot - Copper Mod"
check out the thread in the modding section.

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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #126 on: November 26, 2011, 03:19:56 PM »
That's what inspired me to shrink my modules huhuhu. Oh... SMD components really helps with real estate issues...

my latest @16mm tall, 18mm diameter


It's not a 4050C booster though...  but just here as an inspiration as I was inspired with breaktru's  :thankyou:

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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #127 on: November 26, 2011, 03:27:42 PM »
Wow race -- that is kinda what im going for. I'm using 3/4 inch pipe for irrigation, kinda ugly but its easy to work with.
Breaktru, ill take a look your post to see how you got it in there, BTW im using 18650 batteries, I have bumloads from laptops.

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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #128 on: November 26, 2011, 03:37:38 PM »
That's what inspired me to shrink my modules huhuhu. Oh... SMD components really helps with real estate issues...

my latest @16mm tall, 18mm diameter


It's not a 4050C booster though...  but just here as an inspiration as I was inspired with breaktru's  :thankyou:

Very nicely compacted should solve the height problem. Nice work  :thumbsup:

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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #129 on: December 03, 2011, 10:21:23 PM »
Nice mod

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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #130 on: December 04, 2011, 09:00:57 AM »
i have been looking at your .44 mod for awhile now...very nice job.

i have no skills when it comes to working with electronics, i have never soldered anything successfully..lol

i am more interested in how you actually made the .44 casing work.

I have a Rocket BM http://www.vapeatron.com/rocket-passes-bm-6206/ with a 18650 battery in it.

the only thing that i am not fond of is the big blue button as i want to make some cosmetic mods and the color doesnt go with the theme i have planned.



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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #131 on: December 04, 2011, 07:52:23 PM »
You are lucky for a rocket mod, but if you want a stainless or nickel button, go to http://www.themonkeyboxx.com/category_s/54.htm.. i do..

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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #132 on: December 04, 2011, 08:09:41 PM »
thanks for this link.. stainless or nickel look cool but the green one fits my needs  :thumbsup:

and yes i am lucky to have a rocket mod...

gotta send it back to him to check out the battery on it though..the battery is not taking a full charge...it uses a modded ego charger and when you connect it, it always shows the green light never a red light like it use to.(not the charger as i put an ego battery on it and the led went from green to red for charging)  :crying: will have to get him to change the button on it while its open  :)

its not from overuse because as soon as i bought it, it was used very little as i stopped vaping for a few weeks and went back to analogs.

i am going to give it one more charge and let it sit on the charger to see if anything changes.

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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #133 on: December 04, 2011, 09:00:27 PM »
maby you need to run it down bam, to get it rocking again..

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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #134 on: December 08, 2011, 01:41:40 AM »
 :thankyou: Thanks for the awesome mod instructions. I made one this weekend, a .45 caliber. I used a 10k pot from Radio Shack and connected the center post to the negative post of the pot like the diagram shows and I am not getting any adjustment when I turn the dial. It is a single turn pot and I used 10k resistors in the circuit so I should have a pretty good range. Did I do wrong by making the connection between the two legs of the pot? Or maybe the pot is bad? It vapes great no adjustment.

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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #135 on: December 08, 2011, 07:53:17 AM »
:thankyou: Thanks for the awesome mod instructions. I made one this weekend, a .45 caliber. I used a 10k pot from Radio Shack and connected the center post to the negative post of the pot like the diagram shows and I am not getting any adjustment when I turn the dial. It is a single turn pot and I used 10k resistors in the circuit so I should have a pretty good range. Did I do wrong by making the connection between the two legs of the pot? Or maybe the pot is bad? It vapes great no adjustment.
Can you post a close-up photo at different angles so I can see the wiring?

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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #136 on: December 08, 2011, 08:34:08 AM »
I already took it apart, but here is a diagram of how it was wired. Well....I can't figure out how to insert an image stored on my computer so I will try to explain. 3 legs on the pot, left, center and right. left is to circuit ground, right is to the 10k resistor that goes to post 3 on the regulator and center is connected to left post on the pot (the one that is wired to the ground). I thought this would allow it to work as a variable resistor.

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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #137 on: December 08, 2011, 09:29:12 AM »
I already took it apart, but here is a diagram of how it was wired. Well....I can't figure out how to insert an image stored on my computer so I will try to explain. 3 legs on the pot, left, center and right. left is to circuit ground, right is to the 10k resistor that goes to post 3 on the regulator and center is connected to left post on the pot (the one that is wired to the ground). I thought this would allow it to work as a variable resistor.

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Sounds like you connected it like the schematic/diagram. Try using one outside leg and just the middle leg of the pot and let's see what happens.
Not that you wired it wrong.

Another note: I have used countless 04050c converters in the past and never had a problem until recently. The latest batch of 04050c's, at least the last 3 of them, I had the same problem not being able to vary the voltage. All I got was battery voltage out. Even removing all the caps and leaving Pin 3 empty w/ no resistor across Pin 3 & 4. It should have given me 5.0v out but instead I only saw battery voltage. This suggests that the convert is at fault and not the additional components.
If you can't get it working, try removing all as I described above, leaving just the circuitry for battery Input Pin 2 to Batt (+), Pin 1 to Batt (-) and measure voltage at Pin 4 (+) to Pin 1 (-)

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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #138 on: December 08, 2011, 09:38:42 AM »
Thanks I am trying the center and one other leg now.

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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #139 on: December 08, 2011, 09:48:12 AM »
Looks like I toasted the resistor to the pot (power in one side nothing out.). Will have another one in in a minute.

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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #140 on: December 08, 2011, 09:51:23 AM »
Looks like I toasted the resistor to the pot (power in one side nothing out.). Will have another one in in a minute.

I'm stepping out for a few hours, will check back later.

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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #141 on: December 08, 2011, 10:11:30 AM »
Thanks, the new resistor is working but still no vape so I will try your other suggestion. If that does not work I will step back from the work bench and take a break before I end up with a mod sized hole in the wall. LOL.

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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #142 on: December 08, 2011, 11:02:00 AM »
Yup the regulator is definitely bad I am only getting 2 volts from pin 1 to pin 4. Battery voltage is 4.2 unloaded. Well it was a free sample so no money lost. Thanks for all the help. Got to go haul my middle aged butt to school for finals. I can't wait to start circuits 1 in the spring and get access to real tools.

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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #143 on: December 08, 2011, 02:33:27 PM »
Just be careful wiring up your next converter to avoid a possible short.
Could be there is a large number of bad 04050c being produced lately.
Two of mine were bad from the start and one worked for a week and then crapped out.
My converters came from two different sources.

ANY ONE else have this happen on a recently acquired 04050c?

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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #144 on: December 08, 2011, 09:25:44 PM »
shoot, that means i have to open up all my pritty static bags and check.. huh.. i guess in time lol.. i have alil collection of em right now, thanks t i

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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #145 on: December 09, 2011, 09:06:12 AM »
I've got one more 4050. Is there a way to check it before wiring it up.

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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #146 on: December 09, 2011, 10:21:12 AM »
I've got one more 4050. Is there a way to check it before wiring it up.

Look at Reply #137
Just the battery and a meter.

"battery Input Pin 2 to Batt (+), Pin 1 to Batt (-) and measure voltage at Pin 4 (+) to Pin 1 (-)"

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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #147 on: December 09, 2011, 01:28:20 PM »
Here's my finished 4050C. goes from 3.8v to 6.3v. huhuhu



Credit goes to breaktru for his beautiful schematics and guide!  :thankyou:

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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #148 on: December 09, 2011, 01:49:06 PM »
Here's my finished 4050C. goes from 3.8v to 6.3v. huhuhu
Credit goes to breaktru for his beautiful schematics and guide!  :thankyou:

Very nicely laid out. And very compact. Did you cut out the cover to show the meter and is there an on/off for the DM?   :rockin smiley:

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Re: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage
« Reply #149 on: December 09, 2011, 01:57:02 PM »
Very nicely laid out. And very compact. Did you cut out the cover to show the meter and is there an on/off for the DM?   :rockin smiley:

I have 2 covers. one with a transparent window (materials are from old transparent tape casing LOL) and another without. I use the original on/off switch but one side runs with meter turned on and the other runs without for full stealth vape.  :laughing:

blue thing is the pot. fire button is micro switch right beside it (the one with 2 red wires going in). below the 4050C and an n-channel fet so that I can use the microswitch without disintegrating it.

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