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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #50 on: January 23, 2014, 10:42:34 AM »
Great work I should say. What PCBs are you using?

Thanks afex. PCB as in Protection Circuit for the batteries? I'm using (2) SMD 7A hold, 6v PTC fuses. One in each positive leg of Li-Po batteries.

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #51 on: January 23, 2014, 08:55:47 PM »
The board is mounted horizontally and so is the display. The display is parallel to the board.

The DNA 30 and 20 is made for a tube and yes it will fit a 3/4" tube


So putting a 180` bend on the ribbon cable inside a 3/4" copper tube will not stress it too much? I'm assuming it has the flexibility of the type of ribbon cable that you would find attached to laptop keyboard then.

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #52 on: January 23, 2014, 09:11:25 PM »
The ribbon is very flexible.. I've broken the screen off before though.

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #53 on: January 24, 2014, 08:44:41 AM »

So putting a 180` bend on the ribbon cable inside a 3/4" copper tube will not stress it too much? I'm assuming it has the flexibility of the type of ribbon cable that you would find attached to laptop keyboard then.

In a tube, you will fold the display over the board where the back of the display sits on top of the Inductor. A piece of double sided foam tape should be used to hold the back of the display to the inductor.
Like this --> HERE
It should not put stress on the cable.

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #54 on: January 24, 2014, 09:58:36 AM »
In a tube, you will fold the display over the board where the back of the display sits on top of the Inductor. A piece of double sided foam tape should be used to hold the back of the display to the inductor.
Like this --> HERE
It should not put stress on the cable.
   That's what I wanted to hear.... Thanks Breaktru!!

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #55 on: February 08, 2014, 05:37:54 PM »
Thanks afex. PCB as in Protection Circuit for the batteries? I'm using (2) SMD 7A hold, 6v PTC fuses. One in each positive leg of Li-Po batteries.

Can I use 2 RUEF700 in parallel? They have same amps specs but 30V instead of 6V.

I am building my first mod and I think it's hard to solder those small ones you used...
« Last Edit: February 08, 2014, 05:44:34 PM by kiorull »

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #56 on: February 08, 2014, 06:18:24 PM »
Can I use 2 RUEF700 in parallel? They have same amps specs but 30V instead of 6V.

I am building my first mod and I think it's hard to solder those small ones you used...

The physical size of the PTC is 25.9 mm L x 19.1 mm W x 3 mm H. It's a rather large one, unless you have the space to wire it in.
The 30mOhms is pretty high as well.
The smd types are nice and compact and not all that hard to solder.
I don't see a problem using a higher voltage rating.
Here is one that's like yours and smaller in size as well as lower resistance at 20mOhms HERE and also HERE
Here is a strap PTC HERE

Check out Mamu's PTC write up HERE
« Last Edit: February 14, 2014, 07:19:39 AM by Breaktru »

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #57 on: February 08, 2014, 07:06:15 PM »
I didn't check the physical size... Indeed is way too large for my planned box. Thanks for pointing that out :)

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #58 on: February 09, 2014, 12:00:16 AM »
how do you mount the pcb mount tactile switch to the case?

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #59 on: February 09, 2014, 07:45:21 AM »
how do you mount the pcb mount tactile switch to the case?

External tacts were used for a case/box mod

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #60 on: February 09, 2014, 09:18:32 AM »
do you have the supplier and part number for the switches?

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #61 on: February 09, 2014, 10:30:15 AM »
do you have the supplier and part number for the switches?


Any Tactile switch will do but if you are talking about the switches I used for this mod then SEE HERE

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #62 on: February 20, 2014, 07:50:30 AM »
hi breaktru..im now have a chip dna 30,hammond box,battery efest 18650 x2 rated 35A each..i juz wanna ask how do i parallel those battery?what fuse should i use?ive seen many tutorial n pic but still cant understand how..can u provide some callculation about my setup and how i parallel my battery since this gonna blow my if i do mistake about choosing fuse

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #63 on: February 20, 2014, 08:53:45 AM »
hi breaktru..im now have a chip dna 30,hammond box,battery efest 18650 x2 rated 35A each..i juz wanna ask how do i parallel those battery?what fuse should i use?ive seen many tutorial n pic but still cant understand how..can u provide some callculation about my setup and how i parallel my battery since this gonna blow my if i do mistake about choosing fuse

See mamu's write up --> PTC fuses Scroll down to "Boost converter with 12A max input current"
Paralleling is connecting #1 battery positive to #2 battery positive and connecting #1 battery negative to #2 battery negative.

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #64 on: February 25, 2014, 05:54:32 PM »
wow thats great how do you build one

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #65 on: February 27, 2014, 06:39:16 AM »
Congratulations! Looks really good how did you!   :yes"

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #66 on: March 03, 2014, 09:33:10 AM »
Hey breaktru, where can i get that battery??

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #67 on: March 03, 2014, 10:28:53 AM »
You can obtain these batteries from a hobby store. They are used in R/C models.
I bought mine from Hobbyking

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #68 on: March 13, 2014, 12:33:45 AM »
very cool  :rockin smiley:

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #69 on: March 17, 2014, 11:34:18 AM »
Great job on the mod!  Looks clean  I'm working on mine as well.  I should have some photos later this week.

Question... Did you have to fabricate your display window/cradle or is there a website/place I can purchase one.  this is the only thing I do not have planned out.. any help would be great!

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #70 on: March 17, 2014, 12:05:08 PM »
Great job on the mod!  Looks clean  I'm working on mine as well.  I should have some photos later this week.

Question... Did you have to fabricate your display window/cradle or is there a website/place I can purchase one.  this is the only thing I do not have planned out.. any help would be great!

Welcome to the forum.
Thank you. See this for the DNA Display Housing

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #71 on: March 17, 2014, 04:37:15 PM »
I have a bunch of new products in my Shapeways store https://www.shapeways.com/shops/bapgood

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #72 on: March 17, 2014, 06:10:31 PM »
I have a bunch of new products in my Shapeways store https://www.shapeways.com/shops/bapgood

That's fantastic baps. This will help a lot of modders.  :applaude:

I'm assuming you made the charger port hole for the DNA charger (micro) and not for the 1A mini port.

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #73 on: March 17, 2014, 06:28:15 PM »
That's fantastic baps. This will help a lot of modders.  :applaude:

I'm assuming you made the charger port hole for the DNA charger (micro) and not for the 1A mini port.



I still need to go in and add some pictures/descriptions/etc. But everything with a light pipe hole is for the DNA charger and everything without is for the MICRO 1amp USB charger.

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #74 on: March 17, 2014, 07:07:15 PM »

I still need to go in and add some pictures/descriptions/etc. But everything with a light pipe hole is for the DNA charger and everything without is for the MICRO 1amp USB charger.

My 1 amp's are Mini. Which ones did you get?

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #75 on: March 17, 2014, 07:09:30 PM »
I got mine here http://www.ebay.com/itm/221355237744?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

But if your patient you can get them cheaper from china.

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #76 on: March 17, 2014, 07:13:13 PM »
got mine from here

https://www.fasttech.com/products/1005/10005926/1453504

https://www.fasttech.com/products/1005/10005926/1585501

free shipping anywhere in the world.and i usually buy 10 at a time just so the wait is worth it.

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #77 on: March 17, 2014, 07:15:11 PM »
I got mine here http://www.ebay.com/itm/221355237744?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

But if your patient you can get them cheaper from china.

I didn't realize they made the same charger in Micro and Mini. I like the Mini because it's beefier. I have a bunch of the 1A in Mini

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #78 on: March 17, 2014, 07:19:02 PM »
Not a misprint....I thought everyone was using these :lol:





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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #79 on: March 17, 2014, 07:20:55 PM »
I caught that before you posted. Yes I see there are two styles

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #80 on: March 17, 2014, 07:24:01 PM »
Haha...yeah the mini are beefier, but I don't have any mini cords anymore and I already have too many cords to deal with.

If there is something in particular you want with the mini cutout, just let me know It shouldn't be hard make a new one with a mini cutout.

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #81 on: March 17, 2014, 08:01:51 PM »
No baps I just wanted to find out what it was. I do have some Micro DNA's left.
I love the face plate but in SS the cost is a little out of my price range.

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #82 on: March 17, 2014, 10:04:07 PM »
Great share! Baps any way to speed up shipping? 1 month lead time seems kinda long... I wanna put an order in soon if there's a way to expedite?

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #83 on: March 17, 2014, 10:08:51 PM »
I have no control over lead time. Shapeways determins that. A month seems a little excessive, even for metal and other longer lead materials. Stuff usually ships out a little ahead of schedule, I just had some metal parts ship a week ahead of schedule. Also paying the extra $3 for 2 day shipping has become the norm for me.

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #84 on: March 17, 2014, 11:36:36 PM »
Thanks! Going to put that order in tonight anyways!  Parts look great so it will be worth the wait...

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #85 on: March 17, 2014, 11:40:10 PM »
Thanks! I'm going to put my order in tonight!  Parts look great so it will be worth the wait!

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #86 on: March 18, 2014, 02:50:13 AM »
I like the Mini because it's beefier.

I don't like the micros either.  The minis are tougher, but even so those tiny contacts are kind of hard pressed when pulling an Amp through them.

What I've been doing is I use all the pins for power and ground, 1, 2, and 3 are wired to positive.  4, 5, and the shield are wired to ground.  Of course you have wire the whole thing that way.  The mini-B sockets are soldered to the PCB with that pin-out and I make my own cables accordingly, but it's compatible with a regular cable so the charger will still work with a standard cable if it has to.

Doing my USB connections that way seems to handle the 1A draw nicely.  In the couple three years I've been charging using a USB connection, I have yet to have one wear out or get flakey on me.  They've actually held up surprisingly well.  If they can hold up to my wife's abuse, they can hold up to anything.

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #87 on: March 18, 2014, 04:47:25 AM »
And I do say about these loaders: larger plate has two advantages, exit 1A toward 0, 5A remove the cat from Evolv, and very low price of $ 1.
With a dremel can very easily cut out mini-usb connector on the motherboard (socket can be mounted separately anywhere with threads of connection), and the charger itself remains as small as the one from Evolv. In addition, if you want you can replace LEDs on the motherboard with 1, 8 mm LEDs you can mount wherever you want.
I like that I used and am very pleased with the results.

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #88 on: March 26, 2014, 04:07:44 PM »
What is the part number and maker of that project box?

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #89 on: March 26, 2014, 04:10:45 PM »
I ordered some, but they were rounded sides.

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #90 on: April 12, 2014, 11:36:47 PM »
Hey guys im new here and im in the process of getting up my materials for my first mod build. I plan on doing a dna 30 setup.
I have a question if you guys dont mind helping me with.

1. Im wanting to use a lipo battery What type of setup would i need to run a high mah battery like 4400 or 5600 and will the charger that evolv sells be ok to use with or no.

           

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #91 on: April 13, 2014, 08:49:40 AM »
Hey guys im new here and im in the process of getting up my materials for my first mod build. I plan on doing a dna 30 setup.
I have a question if you guys dont mind helping me with.

1. Im wanting to use a lipo battery What type of setup would i need to run a high mah battery like 4400 or 5600 and will the charger that evolv sells be ok to use with or no.
           

Sure you can use the evolv charger. It will take longer to charge a large capacity battery than the 1A charger but it will work fine.

Use the PTC fuses as you would for any capacity battery for the DNA 30. 12A total on the hold rating. Two 6A in parallel or One 12A if the internal PTC resistance is low.

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #92 on: April 13, 2014, 11:01:12 AM »
thanks for info

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #93 on: April 13, 2014, 03:16:36 PM »
I recently got this
http://www.fasttech.com/products/1005/10005926/1585501-tp4056-1a-li-ion-battery-charging-module
Loads very well 2 batteries in parallel 3400mAh ( 6,8 A ) in maximum 4 hours.  :yes"

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #94 on: April 13, 2014, 08:36:22 PM »
on the lipo batteries whats the deal with the 20c 25c so on  so on
 sorry im a noob at this

and to spec what exactly works the best and just to clarify i need 3.7v

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #95 on: April 13, 2014, 11:58:45 PM »
That's the drain limit rating in terms of the charge.  So a 20C 1000mAh cell would have 20 x 1000mA or a 20A drain lmit.  That means the cell will overheat if you apply a load the results in more than 20A current draw.

It's a pretty important rating for any Li-on.  A standard Li-Ion typically has a 2C limit.  Hobby LiPos typically range from 20C to 60C, but that's not unique to LiPos.  They can range in drain limit from 2C on up.  I have a bunch of 10C LiPos and I have a some high capacity 2C ones. 

Some of the round cells are rated with a flat limit instead of stating it in terms of the charge.  The high drain 18650s often state a direct rating like 20 Amps or 30 Amps.  Though, you can simply divide the charge into that to get a "C" rating.

There's a trade-off with a cell's C rating and its charge capacity, in other words the mAh rating.  A higher C rating will result in lower capacity.  However, a higher C rating provides more efficient power delivery.  There's less voltage drop when the cell is loaded.  This is almost always advantageous, but particularly when cells are loaded heavily.

Generally the higher the C rating the better, but you give up charge capacity for that.  To minimize size you may need to come down on the C rating to some extent.  You don't want your C rating too low since that can be a safety issue.

Okay, hope that covers it.

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #96 on: April 14, 2014, 01:00:32 AM »
Worked for me Craig.

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #97 on: April 14, 2014, 08:32:14 AM »
thanks for the info. That helps  ;bow;

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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #98 on: April 21, 2014, 07:22:08 PM »
I'm meant to be saving money and then I join this forum ... gee thanks .. dna 30 on the way and its all your fault .
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Re: DNA 30D Mod by Breaktru
« Reply #99 on: April 21, 2014, 07:43:36 PM »
I'm meant to be saving money and then I join this forum ... gee thanks .. dna 30 on the way and its all your fault .
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