Author Topic: Box mod No2 (Read 154405 times)

Mandro · « **on:** August 24, 2013, 06:53:11 AM »

After my earlier success at re-building an old VV box mod I decided to make one from scratch.
This one takes 2 x 18650,s and uses the Ptr08100 chip.

Breaktru · « **Reply #1 on:** August 24, 2013, 07:27:03 AM »

Nice work Mandro. It looks really good

Mandro · « **Reply #2 on:** August 24, 2013, 07:44:25 AM »

Thanks Breaktru and thanks to the forum, I wouldn't have known where to start before joining.

jomurp · « **Reply #3 on:** August 24, 2013, 07:48:59 AM »

Nice power house mod

charming · « **Reply #4 on:** August 24, 2013, 08:36:41 AM »

very good mandro, way to go.
I like this forum. No nasty criticism from a 15yr old mindset

breakstuff · « **Reply #5 on:** August 24, 2013, 12:08:50 PM »

Wonderful

How's it vaping? The 08100w is a great board

Mandro · « **Reply #6 on:** August 24, 2013, 12:36:44 PM »

Thank you all for your kind comments.
It's vaping great. I've got a few mechanical mods but VV has always been my preferred choice. I've not tried any other chips yet but I'm happy to continue using the 08100.

Phestr · « **Reply #7 on:** August 25, 2013, 12:39:58 AM »

Very nicely done. I love your casing, I might have to get a hold of one of those for one of my 08100 chips.

jumper · « **Reply #8 on:** August 25, 2013, 05:49:54 PM »

Very Nice Mandro. Sweet looking case and I love the double battery config. I'm still new when it comes to chip sets, but whatever you're doing it working great for you!

CraigHB · « **Reply #9 on:** August 25, 2013, 07:07:26 PM »

Nice looking box Mandro, excellent craftsmanship.

@jumper; Some boards just use one chip, others use more than one. The DC-DC converter modules (switching regulators) like the Murata OKR and Texas Instruments PTR comprise just one chip that performs just one task. That task is to regulate output voltage.

Other boards are available that comprise more than one chip like the DNA20, Nivel board, and some Chinese boards you can get a hold of like the Vamo board. Those provide a display along with other functions like resistance checking and battery monitoring.

Even though these mod boards use a "set" of chips, those chips are not specifically designed to work in tandem to provide a wide range of generic functions like a computer chip set. They use a combination of general purpose chips put together to perform a small set of particular functions. It's not just you, I often see people referring to mod boards as "chip sets". Just seems odd to me.

jumper · « **Reply #10 on:** August 25, 2013, 07:59:54 PM »

Thanks for the lesson about "chip sets". I'll be better about those now that I know. I may have said this before, but I got to ask... I got about 4 of these from Madvapes when I made my first order from them: http://www.madvapes.com/ncp630a-3-amp-adjustable-regulator-2089.html

These are supposed to be regulators (I've hear they are not that efficient), but since I have 4 of them I wanted to know if they would work for a vv mod? It seems that I need some resistors to go with it that I don't have, but next month I might be able to buy some.

Soooooo what do you think?

Jerseybob · « **Reply #11 on:** August 25, 2013, 08:29:11 PM »

Quote from: jumper on August 25, 2013, 07:59:54 PM

Thanks for the lesson about "chip sets". I'll be better about those now that I know. I may have said this before, but I got to ask... I got about 4 of these from Madvapes when I made my first order from them: http://www.madvapes.com/ncp630a-3-amp-adjustable-regulator-2089.html

These are supposed to be regulators (I've hear they are not that efficient), but since I have 4 of them I wanted to know if they would work for a vv mod? It seems that I need some resistors to go with it that I don't have, but next month I might be able to buy some.

Soooooo what do you think?

Yeah not efficient but an easy intro to VV I guess.
You need (2) 10k resistors and a 50K trimmer pot. A circuit board may help too but not 100% necessary.

See LearFX's topic: http://breaktru.com/smf/index.php?topic=388.0

Phestr · « **Reply #12 on:** August 25, 2013, 08:32:17 PM »

Since you're new to boards and circuits, I'd take a look at this: VV Board Kit, then ask MadVapes when they are going to get in just the board. Then it should be just like a paint by number.

jumper · « **Reply #13 on:** August 25, 2013, 08:55:27 PM »

Thanks Jerseybob and Phestr. I appreciate both of your input on this. But when Phestr said: "since your new to boards and circuits". Well that leads me to believe that it's the best way for me to go since I've never tried one before. Not to shoot you down Bob, I'm just trying to make my first one as easy as possible

edit: I just read again what you wrote better Phestr. Are you saying just get the board since I already have the regulators?. There's a third item (it looks like) there that I don't have. It's on the right (is that a pot?). I have some resistors for LEDs but they probably won't work.

Phestr · « **Reply #14 on:** August 25, 2013, 09:05:00 PM »

You did it again, Jumper...you old thread thief!

Sending you a PM.

michamer · « **Reply #15 on:** August 25, 2013, 09:40:35 PM »

Well done Mandro

nice work dude.

@jumper: Jerseybob listed the parts you need and linked to a diagram. Maybe you missed it?

jumper · « **Reply #16 on:** August 25, 2013, 09:51:14 PM »

You're right Phestr. Sorry everyone. I really don't mean to do this. I just get excited sometimes and barge in to ask a question.

my apologies

Mandro · « **Reply #17 on:** August 26, 2013, 03:49:33 AM »

Thanks again for all the positive comments.
@jumper, you are more than welcome to ask your questions on this thread.
A couple of months ago, I didn't have a clue about any of this stuff and I still don't know much but it's questions like yours and the answers from those that do know there stuff that have made it possible for me to really enjoy my new hobby.
I wish that I had the courage to ask the questions myself.

Mandro · « **Reply #18 on:** October 02, 2013, 09:30:23 AM »

I've finished my 3rd box. This is another twin VV box but this time it takes 2 x 18500's. Its smaller than my twin 18350 box because it hasn't got a internal voltmeter. I took advantage of Breaktru's in line voltmeter post and put the voltmeter in a old carto tank. its not got the atty connection because I'm using it just to check my set voltage.

Breaktru · « **Reply #19 on:** October 02, 2013, 10:07:57 AM »

That is a sweet mod

Nice choice using 18500 batteries. I like them too. Keeps the size down and perform better than the 18350.
I imagine you used the PTR08100 again in this mod too

Is that a metal enclosure? Looks really nice. Good size.

vaperkarma · « **Reply #20 on:** October 02, 2013, 10:19:36 AM »

I totally agree with everything breaktru said and I also like the button and the voltage meter came out very well

Mandro · « **Reply #21 on:** October 02, 2013, 10:45:23 AM »

Quote from: Breaktru on October 02, 2013, 10:07:57 AM

That is a sweet mod
Nice choice using 18500 batteries. I like them too. Keeps the size down and perform better than the 18350.
I imagine you used the PTR08100 again in this mod too
Is that a metal enclosure? Looks really nice. Good size.

Thanks, yes it's the PTR08100 and a aluminium enclosure.

Phestr · « **Reply #22 on:** October 02, 2013, 11:37:05 PM »

Where does this enclosure come from? It's the perfect size!

Mandro · « **Reply #23 on:** October 03, 2013, 02:49:32 AM »

Quote from: Phestr on October 02, 2013, 11:37:05 PM

Where does this enclosure come from? It's the perfect size!

I got it from Farnell, it's a Hammond 1550P and it cost £6.80 in the UK. It comes unfinished so I gave it a polish.

kortt · « **Reply #24 on:** October 03, 2013, 03:13:48 PM »

Great looking mods Mandro! I like the carto tank voltmeter idea. I might have to steal it

So what's next ...maybe a DNA20 in your future?

Mandro · « **Reply #25 on:** October 03, 2013, 03:34:11 PM »

Thanks kortt, I stole the carto tank idea from Breaktu,s thread, I just haven't got any pill bottles. I think I'll probably do a DNA mod next, I've got all the parts for it but I'm still not sure what box I would like to use.

Breaktru · « **Reply #26 on:** October 03, 2013, 03:38:19 PM »

Quote from: Mandro on October 03, 2013, 03:34:11 PM

Thanks kortt, I stole the carto tank idea from Breaktu,s thread, I just haven't got any pill bottles. I think I'll probably do a DNA mod next, I've got all the parts for it but I'm still not sure what box I would like to use.

Wait until you get older, you'll have plenty of pill bottles

Mandro · « **Reply #27 on:** October 03, 2013, 04:13:51 PM »

Quote from: Breaktru on October 03, 2013, 03:38:19 PM

Wait until you get older, you'll have plenty of pill bottles

Lol, I think that I've been lucky up until now, I'm 49 and haven't been to the docs for over 10 yrs

kortt · « **Reply #28 on:** October 03, 2013, 04:16:51 PM »

Quote from: Breaktru on October 03, 2013, 03:38:19 PM

Wait until you get older, you'll have plenty of pill bottles

The Geritol Mod! or maybe the Carter's Little Liver pills mini mod? lol

CraigHB · « **Reply #29 on:** October 03, 2013, 05:04:37 PM »

Quote from: Breaktru on October 03, 2013, 03:38:19 PM

Wait until you get older, you'll have plenty of pill bottles

Ain't that the truth

kaddigart · « **Reply #30 on:** October 04, 2013, 08:43:52 PM »

I like the window in the black one. Was it to fit the batteries or just a wild hair? Either way it reminds me of my first PC mod years ago. A mid ATX tower with the plexi window that shows off the hardware...I wonder if you could get cold cathode lighting small enough to work in a box that size

Mandro · « **Reply #31 on:** October 05, 2013, 04:23:26 AM »

Quote from: kaddigart on October 04, 2013, 08:43:52 PM

I like the window in the black one. Was it to fit the batteries or just a wild hair? Either way it reminds me of my first PC mod years ago. A mid ATX tower with the plexi window that shows off the hardware...I wonder if you could get cold cathode lighting small enough to work in a box that size

Yes it was, that enclosure only has access top and bottom so I cut the back off and replaced it with the Perspex.

Mandro · « **Reply #32 on:** November 15, 2013, 05:36:04 PM »

It took a while to risk my modding knowledge on a DNA20 but thanks to this forum, it all worked out fine.

jumper · « **Reply #33 on:** November 15, 2013, 06:02:37 PM »

Best looking box mod I've ever seen. You really need to pat yourself on the back for this one... Way2Go!

Mandro · « **Reply #34 on:** November 15, 2013, 06:45:31 PM »

Thanks jumper. It seems like the DNA20 as opened the door to quite a few DIY modders and people who wouldn't have dreamt about building there own mod have started building.
I've had my DNA for a while now and thought that I'd try and make it look a little different by drilling random holes in it.
Glad you like it.

jumper · « **Reply #35 on:** November 15, 2013, 06:49:13 PM »

Quote from: Mandro on November 15, 2013, 06:45:31 PM

Thanks jumper. It seems like the DNA20 as opened the door to quite a few DIY modders and people who wouldn't have dreamt about building there own mod have started building.
I've had my DNA for a while now and thought that I'd try and make it look a little different by drilling random holes in it.
Glad you like it.

You're welcome about the mod. To me it's the holes in it that makes it look so good. Maybe I'll build a box mod someday. Might try to copy your style

Mandro · « **Reply #36 on:** November 15, 2013, 06:53:35 PM »

I would be flattered, give it a go, it's great fun.

jumper · « **Reply #37 on:** November 15, 2013, 06:58:06 PM »

Quote from: Mandro on November 15, 2013, 06:53:35 PM

I would be flattered, give it a go, it's great fun.

Do you mind telling me where you got the original box?

Mandro · « **Reply #38 on:** November 15, 2013, 07:16:08 PM »

It's a regular Hammond 1550P, you can get them from most electrical suppliers. They are unfinished when you get them and the top, bottom and sides are not very square. I file them as square as I can and then polish them.

Breaktru · « **Reply #39 on:** November 15, 2013, 08:21:26 PM »

Simply beautiful. Now that's a nice looking mod. Well done Mandro

I luv the way you fit in everything.

kortt · « **Reply #40 on:** November 16, 2013, 12:22:57 PM »

That is a really sweet looking mod Mandro, nicely done. You seem to be an expert on space management. lol

I know there are a lot of variables involved but out of curiosity how long does the battery(s) charge last in that one?

Mandro · « **Reply #41 on:** November 16, 2013, 01:02:28 PM »

Quote from: kortt on November 16, 2013, 12:22:57 PM

That is a really sweet looking mod Mandro, nicely done. You seem to be an expert on space management. lol

I know there are a lot of variables involved but out of curiosity how long does the battery(s) charge last in that one?

Quote from: Breaktru on November 15, 2013, 08:21:26 PM

Simply beautiful. Now that's a nice looking mod. Well done Mandro
I luv the way you fit in everything.

Thanks for the kind comments.
I'm not too sure how long the charge lasts, I only finished it yesterday. Using my normal set up on genisis atty,s of around 1.3ohms I'm only taking the DNA20 up to 9watts max so the batteries seem to be lasting a long time.

CraigHB · « **Reply #42 on:** November 16, 2013, 04:38:54 PM »

It's a beauty. I also do a mod with a couple ICR 18650s like that. That's a lot of charge capacity, you can't do much better.

Mandro · « **Reply #43 on:** November 16, 2013, 05:08:12 PM »

Quote from: CraigHB on November 16, 2013, 04:38:54 PM

It's a beauty. I also do a mod with a couple ICR 18650s like that. That's a lot of charge capacity, you can't do much better.

Thanks,
I'm really pleased with its performance so far. 6 months ago I wouldn't have dreamt of attempting to build anything like this but since finding this forum, you guys have made it possible.

Phestr · « **Reply #44 on:** November 16, 2013, 05:14:56 PM »

I really like your atty connection. Did you fabricate it?

Mandro · « **Reply #45 on:** November 16, 2013, 05:36:30 PM »

Quote from: Phestr on November 16, 2013, 05:14:56 PM

I really like your atty connection. Did you fabricate it?

No, I wish that I had the tools and time to do stuff like that. It's a spare top connector from a mech mod.

DjKiDD · « **Reply #46 on:** November 17, 2013, 11:51:51 AM »

Really professional looking, great job!

zeus17 · « **Reply #47 on:** November 18, 2013, 09:40:04 AM »

really cool mod,and very clean too!!!
like those transparent ones,,,really reallt cool!

delchrys · « **Reply #48 on:** November 19, 2013, 10:41:52 AM »

Hi i'm Bert from Holland and i like all the mod's around the net. I like to create my own mod, probably with an step down regulator and 2 batterys. But i am a bit overwhelmed by the different types of regulators. Is there some kind of Pro/con list of different types of regulators.
I'm particularly interested in sizes of the chips.
greetz Bert.

Breaktru · « **Reply #49 on:** November 19, 2013, 12:13:44 PM »

Quote from: delchrys on November 19, 2013, 10:41:52 AM

Hi i'm Bert from Holland and i like all the mod's around the net. I like to create my own mod, probably with an step down regulator and 2 batterys. But i am a bit overwhelmed by the different types of regulators. Is there some kind of Pro/con list of different types of regulators.
I'm particularly interested in sizes of the chips.
greetz Bert.

Hi Bert and welcome to the forum.
As far as step down regulators there are only 2 that I would use. That is the PTR08100w and the OKR-T/10. Both are 10A / 50W. There is also a 3rd that I have used that is just as good which I won't mention here.
The advantage of the OKR over the PTR is that you do not need external capacitors and is a few dollars less in price. But.... you can get the PTR as a free sample on the TI.com site.
They are relatively small in size if you need to cram one in a tight spot. Input voltage is 4.5v to 14v so (2) 3.7v batteries in series will be needed.