Author Topic: .44 mini Booster Box Mod Variable Voltage (Read 480257 times)

Haileah · « **Reply #50 on:** June 25, 2011, 05:39:43 PM »

I remember WillyB posting something once about giving Credit.
I found it at ECF: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/battery-mods/171827-first-vv-mod.html#post2864941

Breaktru · « **Reply #51 on:** June 25, 2011, 05:46:06 PM »

I created this forum to help out others. I try to give as much detail to those wanting to build their own mod.
It's all here for the taking so guys, enjoy.
Alan does the same, he shares with all of us. So, Peace brother modders. Let's all get along and play nice.
Share the wealth!

FlameOut · « **Reply #52 on:** June 25, 2011, 06:56:27 PM »

Shame on you S.S.

timesarerough · « **Reply #53 on:** June 25, 2011, 10:02:16 PM »

Quote from: Pantera on June 25, 2011, 05:18:44 PM

I am very grateful breaktru for your informative postings and all the help you gave me when I PM'd you with questions for building my .44 booster mod.
Copying is the best form of flattery to the creator.

Alan, It doesn't seem that breaktru is upset, but it seems that some of his mod build followers maybe.

How ironic, Satan has the same view. (Nothing personal, just an observation.)

It's one thing to build someone's design and make a comment about the success of the build, but its another thing to post that success in another forum away from the eyes of the designer and 'imply' that the design was his own by not giving credit where credit was DUE!

What if someone were to plagiarize the juice me up software and call it their own creation? Maybe even attempt to sell it?

Would I still be too harsh in my judgement?

timesarerough · « **Reply #54 on:** June 25, 2011, 10:30:58 PM »

Quote from: asnider123 on June 25, 2011, 05:02:05 PM

Well, gee whiz guys, this is starting to get a little brutal ... I have very few original designs, mostly modifications of other people's work, often a combo of several different mods, would be hard-pressed to give credit to all of the originators. This whole world of mods is growing so fast it makes my head spin.

I think Breaktru makes wonderful mods and I hope, some day, to be worthy to walk in his shadow. In the meantime, if I stumble upon any cool idea that someone else can use and improve on, they have my blessing to do so.

I hope that you made your feelings known to SS with a PM on ECF, in a diplomatic way. If not, you really should. (boy, that's a lot of acronyms). The same goes for me too .. if I step on someone else's design, by all means let me know the error of my ways, ok?

Can't we all just get along?

By asnider123

Sorry Alan, but the ECF doesn't agree with point of view....

They said adios to me when I tried to disclose all of the manufacturers contact names, e-mail addresses, and purchasing terms for 'sample' buyers.....FOR FREE! Bypassing every supplier on the ECF and giving everyone a chance to buy direct from the manufacturer!

Yeah, that went well....

So PM'ing S.S. is not in my power, Alan. But S.S. welcome to view my opinion and defend his 'honor' in the very same place that he found the original design for his .44

Cuz if he were to show himself in here, he bombarded by those of us that feel Dave deserves an apology and/or giving him credit for the design.

So if my opinion is too harsh for some and I'm the 'bad guy', so be it.

I call'em like I see'em.

cccsteel · « **Reply #55 on:** July 14, 2011, 10:18:58 AM »

Let me know when this mod goes up for sale please.
Fantastic work.

Haileah · « **Reply #56 on:** July 14, 2011, 05:45:39 PM »

Quote from: timesarerough on June 25, 2011, 10:30:58 PM

Sorry Alan, but the ECF doesn't agree with point of view....

They said adios to me when I tried to disclose all of the manufacturers contact names, e-mail addresses, and purchasing terms for 'sample' buyers.....FOR FREE! Bypassing every supplier on the ECF and giving everyone a chance to buy direct from the manufacturer!

Yeah, that went well....

So PM'ing S.S. is not in my power, Alan. But S.S. welcome to view my opinion and defend his 'honor' in the very same place that he found the original design for his .44

Cuz if he were to show himself in here, he bombarded by those of us that feel Dave deserves an apology and/or giving him credit for the design.

So if my opinion is too harsh for some and I'm the 'bad guy', so be it.

I call'em like I see'em.

I don't know if you are aware of it but SS is selling them on ECF. I also see he is a member here on breaktru forum. This is where he got the idea.

timesarerough · « **Reply #57 on:** July 15, 2011, 02:37:10 AM »

Quote from: Breaktru Admin on June 25, 2011, 05:11:24 PM

I have no hard feelings. I am very flattered that someone uses my designs.
More power to them.

VINDICATED BY HAILEAH!!

Squance · « **Reply #58 on:** July 26, 2011, 10:56:19 AM »

I ordered the parts to make a .44 mini booster, I have a question about the caps. Do you recommend leaving off the caps?
I also see a member here ask for the parts list and made it and is selling it with a different box mod name at ECF. Didn't see a reference to your mod though.

asnider123 · « **Reply #59 on:** July 26, 2011, 11:14:10 AM »

hmmmmmm ... always nice to give credit where credit is due

Breaktru · « **Reply #60 on:** July 26, 2011, 02:52:41 PM »

Quote from: Squance on July 26, 2011, 10:56:19 AM

I ordered the parts to make a .44 mini booster, I have a question about the caps. Do you recommend leaving off the caps?
I also see a member here ask for the parts list and made it and is selling it with a different box mod name at ECF. Didn't see a reference to your mod though.

I recommend that you put the caps ON. I've seen a difference with the 14500 batt.

tearocks · « **Reply #61 on:** August 17, 2011, 01:48:29 AM »

A big thanks to Breaktru for sharing his design and instruction on this mod. A few weeks ago I didn't know what a regulator did. I put this together and it's working like a champ. Didn't think I'd be able to solder all the components to the pins so I cut up some strip board and soldered to that. The spacing of the pins won't fit into a single board without a lot of bending, so I used three bits and wired the ground lines together underneath. Managed to fit an LED in the end so I can tell if it's firing correctly.

Not planning on making and selling them as my own.

The cost of shipping the chips to Australia is too restrictive.

Thanks again.

Breaktru · « **Reply #62 on:** August 17, 2011, 08:01:07 AM »

Very nicely done tea, good work mate. Enjoy your new mod.

cccsteel · « **Reply #63 on:** August 17, 2011, 08:29:42 AM »

Quote from: tearocks on August 17, 2011, 01:48:29 AM

A big thanks to Breaktru for sharing his design and instruction on this mod. A few weeks ago I didn't know what a regulator did. I put this together and it's working like a champ. Didn't think I'd be able to solder all the components to the pins so I cut up some strip board and soldered to that. The spacing of the pins won't fit into a single board without a lot of bending, so I used three bits and wired the ground lines together underneath. Managed to fit an LED in the end so I can tell if it's firing correctly.

Not planning on making and selling them as my own.
The cost of shipping the chips to Australia is too restrictive.

Thanks again.

Wow Tearocks, that looks sweet.
Your mod came out fantastic, nice and compact too.

shirl · « **Reply #64 on:** August 17, 2011, 09:12:10 AM »

Quote from: tearocks on August 17, 2011, 01:48:29 AM

A big thanks to Breaktru for sharing his design and instruction on this mod. A few weeks ago I didn't know what a regulator did. I put this together and it's working like a champ. Didn't think I'd be able to solder all the components to the pins so I cut up some strip board and soldered to that. The spacing of the pins won't fit into a single board without a lot of bending, so I used three bits and wired the ground lines together underneath. Managed to fit an LED in the end so I can tell if it's firing correctly.

Thanks again.

Cool mod. Looks great. How does it preform?
What voltage range did you end up with Tearocks?

asnider123 · « **Reply #65 on:** August 17, 2011, 12:59:00 PM »

Tea... great job .. I am surprised that TI doesn't have retailers in AU .. bet they do .. might take some research or an email to TI sales to find out ...

Or you could always go with National Semiconductors regulators, available on Ebay, check out the "poorvari" schematics .. should be able to build mods with locally or ebay available parts.

http://cgi.ebay.com/10-LM350BT-Adjustable-Voltage-Regulator-3A-LM350T-LM350-/200640383597?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb7194a6d#ht_927wt_902

tearocks · « **Reply #66 on:** August 18, 2011, 01:43:07 AM »

Thanks guys. It's quickly become my favourite mod. Small enough to take out and about and battery life has been good, so far, with what most vapers would consider light to moderate use. 14500's are small and easy to fit a spare with juice, atty, carto, etc. in a Riva carry case.

I used the 22K bridge resistor as per Breaktru's table. It will wind down to 4.05V and out to 5.5V without load.
I ended up not using the 3A diode because it's large (have to grind the wire to fit into the Vero board or use a flying lead) and I have a simple 3.7V 2AA box mod for the 1.5ohm atty's I have.

Thanks for the tips Alan. I've read a lot of your posts and they're always helpful and informative. We have distributors for TI chips in Aus but they charge a premium and I would be better off placing a large order with Digikey or the like to make postage worthwhile.

I can get the "Poorvari" chips for ~$3 over here. I will try them out soon but have purchased a few UCC283 chips from ebay to make some VV mods for my family and friends.

I'm really digging this DIY thing. I have a Provari as well but it's not something I like to carry and risk losing during a night on the town. Plus, if the home-made mod breaks I can just patch it up with hot melt

Breaktru · « **Reply #67 on:** September 09, 2011, 09:37:58 PM »

See the 3rd posting, Reply #2 for update info and Mosfet Touch Circuit.

Ginjo · « **Reply #68 on:** September 17, 2011, 11:26:50 AM »

just a quick question, i'm getting the gist of the mod, in fact planning to build one, but what's nagging me, is that can we remove the diode? and if we do, what's the difference?

SmokeRings · « **Reply #69 on:** September 17, 2011, 02:11:36 PM »

Quote from: Breaktru Admin on September 17, 2011, 01:09:16 PM

Ginjo, see the bottom of the post on the 1st page under "Update:" http://breaktru.com/smf/index.php/topic,215.msg468.html#msg468
It says: "UPDATE:
I have removed the Diode and replaced the 100k resistor between Pins 3 & 4 with a 10k
for a voltage range of 4.02v to 5.4v with NO load."
Also there is a Chart for voltage ranges w/ or w/o diode.

I thinks that 4.02v to 5.4v is a pretty good range.

novoleen · « **Reply #70 on:** September 18, 2011, 11:08:18 AM »

I think it's wonderful that breaktru is sharing all of his mod designs.

Ginjo · « **Reply #71 on:** September 18, 2011, 07:03:01 PM »

Quote from: Breaktru Admin on September 17, 2011, 01:09:16 PM

Ginjo, see the bottom of the post on the 1st page under "Update:" http://breaktru.com/smf/index.php/topic,215.msg468.html#msg468
It says: "UPDATE:
I have removed the Diode and replaced the 100k resistor between Pins 3 & 4 with a 10k
for a voltage range of 4.02v to 5.4v with NO load."
Also there is a Chart for voltage ranges w/ or w/o diode.

ok, got it

finally figured it out...

can't wait to build this baby

Breaktru · « **Reply #72 on:** September 18, 2011, 07:24:09 PM »

Quote from: Ginjo on September 18, 2011, 07:03:01 PM

ok, got it

finally figured it out...

can't wait to build this baby

Good luck Ginjo, let us know how you make out after the build.

Ginjo · « **Reply #73 on:** September 23, 2011, 11:03:51 AM »

Quote from: Breaktru Admin on September 18, 2011, 07:24:09 PM

Good luck Ginjo, let us know how you make out after the build.

Breaktru, can I ask for a favor? can you send me a schematic diagram without the diode? i mean I think I can just remove the diode, but I just wanna make sure if the schematic would be the same...

Breaktru · « **Reply #74 on:** September 23, 2011, 02:40:25 PM »

Just put together another .44 mini booster.
This time with a touch switch and a voltage range that can handle Low resistance Dual Coil cartos.

I really like this mod and hate to part with it but I maybe selling it so I can buy more parts to make more mods.
I already have many offers for it but have to devise a fare way to pick a suitor. Some one who can take it for walks daily, groom it regularly and give it love and affection....

UPDATE: not letting this one go. I'm keeping it.

Circuit below w/ N-Ch and P-Ch Mosfet only visible to logged on members.........

Ginjo · « **Reply #75 on:** September 23, 2011, 03:17:44 PM »

Quote from: Breaktru Admin on September 23, 2011, 02:40:25 PM

Just put together another .44 mini booster.
This time with a touch switch and a voltage range that can handle Low resistance Dual Coil cartos.

sweet! can handle LR? what resistor did you used?

Breaktru · « **Reply #76 on:** September 23, 2011, 03:37:18 PM »

Quote from: Ginjo on September 23, 2011, 11:03:51 AM

Breaktru, can I ask for a favor? can you send me a schematic diagram without the diode? i mean I think I can just remove the diode, but I just wanna make sure if the schematic would be the same...

Look at Reply #2 in this thread. Use a wire in place of the Diode between Pin #4 and the Atty center pin. Everything is the same. Also look at the table for Voltage/Resistor in the previous posts.

Ginjo · « **Reply #77 on:** September 23, 2011, 03:44:58 PM »

Quote from: Breaktru Admin on September 23, 2011, 03:37:18 PM

Look at Reply #2 in this thread. Use a wire in place of the Diode between Pin #4 and the Atty center pin. Everything is the same. Also look at the table for Voltage/Resistor in the previous posts.

thanks, now I see what you mean... sorry for being a pain

noob at modding

Ginjo · « **Reply #78 on:** September 23, 2011, 04:07:20 PM »

oh, and i've been meaning to ask, will this work with trustfires without any problems?

Breaktru · « **Reply #79 on:** September 23, 2011, 04:51:36 PM »

Quote from: Ginjo on September 23, 2011, 04:07:20 PM

oh, and i've been meaning to ask, will this work with trustfires without any problems?

If look at the photo on the first post you will see that it uses a Trustfire (with the flame)
1 x 14500, 900mah. Imagine it would be even better w/ a high drain batt.

UPDATE: 1/2 amp more wattage with an AW IMR but half the battery run time than the flames.

Ginjo · « **Reply #80 on:** September 23, 2011, 05:42:49 PM »

Quote from: Breaktru Admin on September 23, 2011, 04:51:36 PM

If look at the photo on the first post you will see that it uses a Trustfire (with the flame)
1 x 14500, 900mah. Imagine it would be even better w/ a high drain batt.

cool! will start collecting the parts for this little baby

ChainVaper · « **Reply #81 on:** September 24, 2011, 04:51:06 PM »

Quote from: Breaktru Admin on September 23, 2011, 02:40:25 PM

Just put together another .44 mini booster.
This time with a touch switch and a voltage range that can handle Low resistance Dual Coil cartos.

I really like this mod and hate to part with it but I maybe selling it so I can buy more parts to make more mods.
I already have many offers for it but have to devise a fare way to pick a suitor. Some one who can take it for walks daily, groom it regularly and give it love and affection....

The juice tank is a perfect match for your new .44. Wow. Where did you get it?

Breaktru · « **Reply #82 on:** September 24, 2011, 05:34:59 PM »

Quote from: ChainVaper on September 24, 2011, 04:51:06 PM

The juice tank is a perfect match for your new .44. Wow. Where did you get it?

I made it CV. See my tank mod thread.
Also take a look at asnider's CE2 tank mods, they are great too.

shirl · « **Reply #83 on:** September 24, 2011, 08:09:26 PM »

Yes, I agree that tank looks good with the new modified 44 mini

Breaktru · « **Reply #84 on:** September 28, 2011, 09:15:06 AM »

I've been vaping a 1.5 DC smoketek.The setup with the resistor across Pin 3 & 4 limits the amperage for use of a max of 2 amps before cutting out.
Using the 1.5 DC at 1.75 to 1.99 amps produces a significant amount of vapor. It sounds low but I find it satisfactory.
Using a standard atty 2.0 -2.2 ohms does NOT drop the output voltage more than 0.1 v.
The attached photo is a quick adapter for setting amperage. Used between the batt connector and the atty/carto w/ the meter leads attached to the studs w/ meter set on 10 amp scale.

To summarize: The best way to adjust the 0450c in my opinion is with AMPERAGE and NOT voltage.

DRA · « **Reply #85 on:** September 28, 2011, 10:43:01 AM »

This sounds acceptable to me,

asnider123 · « **Reply #86 on:** September 28, 2011, 04:21:47 PM »

Dave, is it ok if I use your wiring diagram and expertise to build a TI booster mod? Thanks dude! That's awesome!!!

Breaktru · « **Reply #87 on:** September 28, 2011, 04:41:10 PM »

Quote from: asnider123 on September 28, 2011, 04:21:47 PM

Dave, is it ok if I use your wiring diagram and expertise to build a TI booster mod? Thanks dude! That's awesome!!!

Of course Alan my friend.
Hey, I just got in a NEW type DC-DC converter that may put the 04050c out of business. It's half the size.

asnider123 · « **Reply #88 on:** September 28, 2011, 04:52:28 PM »

Cool!!!! First I better learn how to use the 04050 before I take on something new LOL

Breaktru · « **Reply #89 on:** September 28, 2011, 05:34:13 PM »

Quote from: asnider123 on September 28, 2011, 04:52:28 PM

Cool!!!! First I better learn how to use the 04050 before I take on something new LOL

This is what the DC-DC Converter is:
V.V. 10 amps/50Watt - Input 3-13.8vdc and Output of 0.59-5.1v.
Typically 91% efficient
I have to run some tests to see if I can boost it up with one battery. I read that I can if I wire it differently.
And for now as to what it is.... it's a secret.... Sssssssshhhhhhhhhhh.

Breaktru · « **Reply #90 on:** October 01, 2011, 10:22:21 AM »

Okay, my dreams of finding the ULTIMATE booster has been squashed.
I contacted Design Support over at Digikey and was told that this DC-DC converter has been revised and is no longer a boost/buck but just a buck and NO converter can do what I want, except the 04050c.
I was basing my possible design on Rev. 02 and a posting at an electronics forum of a member who successfully used it as a booster. Rev. 03 has limited my intent. Here's what I had used when I bought it.

This is the latest Rev. 03:

As Emily Litella (Gilda Radner) would have said..... "Never Mind"

4492011 · « **Reply #91 on:** October 02, 2011, 11:03:36 AM »

HI what would the circut look like if I were to use a small tact switch instead of touch?

Breaktru · « **Reply #92 on:** October 02, 2011, 12:11:41 PM »

Quote from: 4492011 on October 02, 2011, 11:03:36 AM

HI what would the circut look like if I were to use a small tact switch instead of touch?

I've seen many different resistor values for the mosfet using a tact switch.
Some use no resistor on the gate while others use a 1k ohm.
The resistor between Gate and Source has been shown with a resistor ranging from 47k to 2.2 Meg ohm.

Pantera · « **Reply #93 on:** October 09, 2011, 06:30:09 PM »

How are your making out Dave.. did ya making any more?

Haileah · « **Reply #94 on:** October 09, 2011, 07:05:35 PM »

My tongue is hanging out too..

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asnider123 · « **Reply #98 on:** October 10, 2011, 07:29:15 PM »

Sounds like you've got some groupies

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