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Offline Bigwhiterabbitt

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DNA30 Time to double check
« on: July 20, 2014, 11:54:51 PM »
Finally ready to start putting my DNA30 builds together so I thought I'd start a post to iron out any doubts I have. My main concern is the fuses. I know it's been covered before and I've read all the threads I can find but some of the post seem to contradict each other and I'm worried about going too high or too low with some of the values. I thought it would be easier if I listed the fuses I've narrowed it down to and hope someone has the patience to steer me right.

I'm putting together a single battery build but I'm already planning for a duel battery configuration when this one is finished so I might as well clear that up at the same time. These are the fuses I've narrowed things down to based on what I can actually get my hands on..


http://www.digikey.co.uk/product-detail/en/2920L700SLPR/F6137CT-ND/4147147 (7A hold/14A trip)

http://www.digikey.co.uk/product-detail/en/1210L450SLWR/F5790CT-ND/3661932 (4.5A hold/9A trip)

http://www.digikey.co.uk/product-detail/en/1206L400SLWR/F5786CT-ND/3661928 (4A hold/8A trip)

http://www.digikey.co.uk/product-detail/en/1206L300SLTHYR/F5784DKR-ND/3661944 (3A hold/6A trip) (time to trip 4sec)

http://www.digikey.co.uk/product-detail/en/1210L300SLWR/F5912CT-ND/3778187 (3A hold/6A trip) (time to trip 2sec)

I need to know which two would be best for the single battery and which four would be best for the duel battery..?

Thanks for your patience..

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Re: DNA30 Time to double check
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2014, 02:46:22 PM »
For the SMD type, you don't want to go smaller than a 1210 package.  I've had trouble with the smaller ones before.  They're not as tough and resistance can skew after a few trips.

Otherwise the lower the resistance the better so you'll do better in that regard with a higher trip current.  The limit there is if you go too high on the trip current you can get response times too slow when a fault occurs.  It depends on the power supply, but if using a a high drain 18650 there's generally not a big concern with trip times.  They'll quickly trip fuses well above the trip currents you've listed.  Fault currents are generally 50 to 100 Amps which will get your trip times under a second.

You want your hold current ratings in the area of the maximal draw for the DNA which is 12A, doesn't have to be right on, you can go under an amount putting maximal demand 50% over the hold rating.  That would be 8A hold in this case.

There's a wide margin between hold and trip currents, typically hold current is around half the trip current.  With an e-cig you can run fairly close to the trip current without getting a false trip since an atomizer is not powered continuously.  You do want some margin there to eliminate the possibility of a false trip. 

You can run a couple fuses in parallel to double the hold and trip current and also halve the resistance.  I would recommend two of the 1210L450SLWR.  Run two in parallel for a single cell, one on each cell for dual parallel cells.

I would not recommend running more than two fuses in parallel since there are derating issues that come into play with parallel fuses.  With two it's not an issue, but it can become significant with more than that.

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Re: DNA30 Time to double check
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2014, 03:48:38 PM »
Thanks Craig thats a lot clearer. The 1210L450SLWR were my original choice after reading one of your earlier posts but they were unavailable at the time and to be honest I think I read about too many other fuses being used and confused the hell outa myself. I can get those fuses now so thats great. I also thought that I should be using two fuses (with half the values) on each battery when using two batterys in parallel so I'm very glad I asked that question as well..

Thank you very much for your help I know you've been over this many times before..

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