Author Topic: Copper Tube Mods - A 3.7v and a V.V. (Read 253572 times)

rrtwister · « **Reply #50 on:** December 25, 2011, 04:45:38 PM »

Quote from: hatefire on December 22, 2011, 11:39:03 AM

ok, i'm a little slow, here comes the pix,i hope

Nice work hatefire. Very cool making a copper mod.

hatefire · « **Reply #51 on:** December 30, 2011, 07:14:27 PM »

here is a review of my mod. what's good, what's bad
battery life - 18650 3600mAh 3.7 li-ion protected battery, measured by how many cartos I used before battery needed recharging.
I was using Bauway 510 XL CE2 clear cartomizer 2.9 ohm. I was able to fill and vape 4 1/2 cartos before battery needed to be recharged. i think that is outstanding.
No failures of the mod. I took the battery cap off and removed the battery each day, as I didn't want to activate the mod while it was in my motorcycle bag.
bad - I need to make the bottom cap flat, so that it can stand up, cuz when I lay it on its side the carto leaks thru the mouthpiece, yuck, I need to put more than one coat of clear coat on the mod, it has rubbed off in the areas that get handled the most. i would like to make some sort of protective sleave that protectes the carto. although I havent had any problems, I forsee the carto getting snapped off or bent. well thats it for now. I think the next one will be made of elecrical EMT pipe or aluminum.

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Breaktru · « **Reply #52 on:** December 30, 2011, 08:01:09 PM »

Nice HF.
Those caps are manufactured by two different companies. Home Depot sold the flat bottom when I bought my first set but several weeks later an employee told me that they switched to the slightly convex cap. I sorted through a bin to find the flat caps.

If you are worried about snapping off the atty while carrying it in you're M/C bag and find it a hassle to unscrew, look at the RCA jack / Phono Jack type connectors for plugging your atty/carto into the battery connector. I don't remember the link location for it.

kd0afk · « **Reply #53 on:** August 11, 2012, 07:29:30 PM »

I really like the design. It has given me ideas for my own mods. What are your views on magnetic switches? I realize they don't have the conductivity of a wired switch but for me the ruggedness of the mag switch outweighs the need to wire it. also like your idea of using shower door wheels as an insulator for the pos. post, very nice.

Breaktru · « **Reply #54 on:** August 11, 2012, 07:36:54 PM »

Quote from: kd0afk on August 11, 2012, 07:29:30 PM

I really like the design. It has given me ideas for my own mods. What are your views on magnetic switches? I realize they don't have the conductivity of a wired switch but for me the ruggedness of the mag switch outweighs the need to wire it. also like your idea of using shower door wheels as an insulator for the pos. post, very nice.

Thanks kd0afk, ya gotta use what you have on hand sometimes. I don't throw anything away

I like the look of the magnetic switch as Asdaq has done on many of his mods. Never gave it a thought about putting one in my mods. I'd like to see you post yours once your done.

kd0afk · « **Reply #55 on:** August 11, 2012, 09:39:09 PM »

Now you ruined my day.

I did a serch for him and found his "skeletal" mod. It looks more "steampunk" than my "steampunk" mod idea and his was unintentional.

I am working on a circular voltage adjustment based on a "C" shaped piece of carbon or some high resistance material. Voltage is adjusted by turning a collar, all mechanical. I am just moving into a new apartment and my finances are suffering right now but at the end of the month I should be back to tinkering.

jcal · « **Reply #56 on:** August 13, 2012, 09:37:43 PM »

Hi guys noob here .just ordered all the parts for my copper tube mod. hope i can make it as nice looking
as breaktru.will post pics.thanks for the info would never have been possible without breaktru .

Breaktru · « **Reply #57 on:** August 13, 2012, 10:16:20 PM »

Quote from: jcal on August 13, 2012, 09:37:43 PM

Hi guys noob here .just ordered all the parts for my copper tube mod. hope i can make it as nice looking
as breaktru.will post pics.thanks for the info would never have been possible without breaktru .

Hey jcal. Glad you decided to build one. It would be nice to see your photos.

jcal · « **Reply #58 on:** August 17, 2012, 05:05:07 PM »

Hi Breaktru had my first mishap. I think I drilled the switch hole too low

. Now when I put the battery
in it hits the switch .oh well back to shop to cut another piece of pipe . glad I bought two feet. oh can
put the connector head all the way down for a neater look or would it restrict the atomizer air flow.

Breaktru · « **Reply #59 on:** August 17, 2012, 05:16:48 PM »

Quote from: jcal on August 17, 2012, 05:05:07 PM

Hi Breaktru had my first mishap. I think I drilled the switch hole too low . Now when I put the battery
in it hits the switch .oh well back to shop to cut another piece of pipe . glad I bought two feet. oh can
put the connector head all the way down for a neater look or would it restrict the atomizer air flow.

Oh well there's always more pipe

I like to lay out the internal parts along side the copper tube before drilling and cutting.
I have recessed (mounted flush) the 510 connector on other coppers. Won't restrict the air flow. I also fill the connector w/ epoxy on the underside around the center post to prevent juice from leaking in.

jcal · « **Reply #60 on:** August 17, 2012, 05:22:00 PM »

thanks breaktru ill try it. you were right about the learning curve.

kd0afk · « **Reply #61 on:** August 17, 2012, 09:46:18 PM »

Had the idea the other day to take an end cap, grind a curve on the side so that it fits peninsular to a pipe, braze it on to make a place for the button.

Learfx · « **Reply #62 on:** August 27, 2012, 11:22:53 AM »

Hello all, It's been over a year since I started vaping and I've made a few copper mods in that time. I stumbled across some of breaktru's mods early on and thought they were outstanding. I make my mods for fun, I don't sell them because they just take way to long to make. Thanks again breaktru for the inspiration =) . I have a website with all of the mods I've made @ http://www.learfx.com

[img width= height=]http://learfx.com/tmp/buddha1.png[/img] [img width= height=]http://learfx.com/tmp/steampunk.JPG[/img]

Breaktru · « **Reply #63 on:** August 27, 2012, 12:57:05 PM »

Outstanding Lear. You have been busy while you were away from this forum.

You've taken the Copper to a new dimension.

jcal · « **Reply #64 on:** August 28, 2012, 09:37:40 PM »

great mod Lear.love the design.working on some mods myself will post pics soon.thanks

Pantera · « **Reply #65 on:** August 28, 2012, 10:01:00 PM »

Quote from: Learfx on August 27, 2012, 11:22:53 AM

Hello all, It's been over a year since I started vaping and I've made a few copper mods in that time. I stumbled across some of breaktru's mods early on and thought they were outstanding. I make my mods for fun, I don't sell them because they just take way to long to make. Thanks again breaktru for the inspiration =) . I have a website with all of the mods I've made @ http://www.learfx.com

Wow Lear, really beautiful work

kd0afk · « **Reply #66 on:** August 28, 2012, 10:05:13 PM »

I think the steampunk is my favorite.

jcal · « **Reply #67 on:** August 29, 2012, 06:02:35 PM »

well i succeeded posting my pics . here is my first tube mod.any suggestions and or comments are
welcomed we are here to learn from one another thank you Dave.

Breaktru · « **Reply #68 on:** August 29, 2012, 06:07:19 PM »

Congratrulations jcal on you first tube mod

Nicely done

dannyboy · « **Reply #69 on:** August 29, 2012, 06:10:48 PM »

Quote from: jcal on August 29, 2012, 06:02:35 PM

well i succeeded posting my pics . here is my first tube mod.any suggestions and or comments are
welcomed we are here to learn from one another thank you Dave.

Congrats. Looks good. How is it vaping? Can't think of any suggestions.

jcal · « **Reply #70 on:** August 29, 2012, 06:34:50 PM »

Its vapes great.That 18650 lasts a long time too. Big difference from my ego 900 mah batterry
thank you Dave it is your design

kevlarsho11 · « **Reply #71 on:** November 08, 2012, 07:10:25 PM »

Thank you for the inspiration to build a copper tube mod! I am new here and just completed my mod using 2 18650's the only carto's i have right now are 1.5 to 1.8 ohms. The vape i am getting is a huge improvement over my ego twist with a tank setup. However the vape is pretty hot. What is the best option for cooling it down a bit without losing quantity?

Breaktru · « **Reply #72 on:** November 08, 2012, 07:26:13 PM »

Quote from: kevlarsho11 on November 08, 2012, 07:10:25 PM

Thank you for the inspiration to build a copper tube mod! I am new here and just completed my mod using 2 18650's the only carto's i have right now are 1.5 to 1.8 ohms. The vape i am getting is a huge improvement over my ego twist with a tank setup. However the vape is pretty hot. What is the best option for cooling it down a bit without losing quantity?

Welcome to the forum. Nice to hear about your build and you're welcome.

What's inside the mod? Is it V.V. w/ two 18650's in series? or is it just the batteries?

kevlarsho11 · « **Reply #73 on:** November 08, 2012, 07:57:00 PM »

It is just the batteries. My fluke meter is saying its putting out 8.02 volts without the carto. no v.v. yet maybe my next one.

also the cartos are dual coil. 1.5 to 1.8 ohm

Breaktru · « **Reply #74 on:** November 08, 2012, 08:39:04 PM »

Quote from: kevlarsho11 on November 08, 2012, 07:57:00 PM

It is just the batteries. My fluke meter is saying its putting out 8.02 volts without the carto. no v.v. yet maybe my next one.

also the cartos are dual coil. 1.5 to 1.8 ohm

That's way too much voltage to put into a 1.5 or 1.8 ohm carto. Surprised they didn't pop.
Calculations show a 1.5 ohm would be 42.88 Watts / 5.35 amps and a 1.8 ohm at 35.7 watts / 4.45 amps. Of course the batteries wouldn't be able to deliver the said wattage/amperage so I'm sure if you measured under load the output voltage would be dropping quite a bit.
A 6.0 ohm carto would be 10.7 watts / 1.34 amps

kevlarsho11 · « **Reply #75 on:** November 08, 2012, 08:48:33 PM »

Quote from: Breaktru on November 08, 2012, 08:39:04 PM

That's way too much voltage to put into a 1.5 or 1.8 ohm carto. Surprised they didn't pop.
Calculations show a 1.5 ohm would be 42.88 Watts / 5.35 amps and a 1.8 ohm at 35.7 watts / 4.45 amps. Of course the batteries wouldn't be able to deliver the said wattage/amperage so I'm sure if you measured under load the output voltage would be dropping quite a bit.
A 6.0 ohm carto would be 10.7 watts / 1.34 amps

Thanks for the advise in your opinion is there a better option than the carto/ tank setup. I have been seeing some of the rebuildable atomizers are they a good option?

Breaktru · « **Reply #76 on:** November 08, 2012, 08:55:50 PM »

Quote from: kevlarsho11 on November 08, 2012, 08:48:33 PM

Thanks for the advise in your opinion is there a better option than the carto/ tank setup. I have been seeing some of the rebuildable atomizers are they a good option?

Yes because you can wind the coil to a higher resistance.

kevlarsho11 · « **Reply #77 on:** November 08, 2012, 09:07:59 PM »

which ones would you recommend? any you wouldnt recommend?

Breaktru · « **Reply #78 on:** November 09, 2012, 10:24:49 AM »

Quote from: kevlarsho11 on November 08, 2012, 09:07:59 PM

which ones would you recommend? any you wouldnt recommend?

There are so many to choose from. I don't think I'm qualified to recommend the best one. I have 4 or 5 . The best one that I'm using is the Smoktech Vivi converted from a silica wick to a genesis wick. But it's not the best out there. I would do some research first or maybe someone on this forum can suggest one.

CraigHB · « **Reply #79 on:** November 09, 2012, 01:37:44 PM »

There are a lot of them out there now. Couldn't say that a year ago. These guys have a selection of inexpensive ones;

http://www.discountvapers.com/rebuildables/

You'll have a hard time winding a 5 or 6 Ohm coil with any rebuildable. They typically require a heavier gauge heating wire so you'd end up with a really long coil. Most don't have all that much room for the coil in them.

Breaktru · « **Reply #80 on:** November 09, 2012, 02:12:54 PM »

Craig, what if kev uses a thinner gauge winding like maybe 36 or 38ga. I now it's a bit more prone to breaking. He could wind less coils than the a 32 or 28ga because of the higher resistance of the wire.

CraigHB · « **Reply #81 on:** November 09, 2012, 05:21:46 PM »

I was thinking the same thing actually, but didn't mention it. The problem with the thin stuff is it's really hard to work with because it's so fragile. But, it would do the job. You could probably wind a 5 Ohm coil no problem with 36 AWG. Also, the thickness of the wire affects how it vapes so it would be interesting to see how it performs.

kevlarsho11 · « **Reply #82 on:** November 12, 2012, 07:12:13 PM »

Thanks all for the suggestions! I think im going to give it a couple weeks before i buy a new atomizer. I just completed building a side by side tube mod with 2x 18650 batteries. Im using a 2ohm carto and getting good enough results. I will be trying out a rebuildable or two just gotta keep the wife happy. I would post pics but i havent figured out how yet.

utak3r · « **Reply #83 on:** March 05, 2013, 06:22:25 AM »

Quote from: Learfx on August 27, 2012, 11:22:53 AM

[img width= height=]http://learfx.com/tmp/steampunk.JPG[/img]

Holy crap! This is just outstanding... I'd love to see a whole "Fallout Mod"

dannyboy · « **Reply #84 on:** March 05, 2013, 08:22:43 AM »

Lear does some fine work.
Too bad I haven't seen him around anymore

Learfx · « **Reply #85 on:** March 08, 2013, 09:07:48 AM »

Hello, I made this mod for a friend. This was the look he wanted. This mod uses the Ti PTR08100WVD VV chip as well as a P-channel mosfet for the touch switch. It uses 2x 18350 batteries and can use flat top or button type. Voltage ranges from about 3.5 to 6.5. The voltage display will only come on when the second button is pressed along with the touch switch. voltage reading is for output only. I put a mini lava tube along side it for size comparison. The mod is 8.5" tall. The tank on top is called the "Non Practical Tank" It was made by a guy from DFW Vapor in Texas. The tank holds about 30 mils of juice

Yeah I know it's a little extreme but sometimes it's fun to be unique.

Thanks again breaktru.

Breaktru · « **Reply #86 on:** March 08, 2013, 09:30:14 AM »

Quote from: Learfx on March 08, 2013, 09:07:48 AM

Hello, I made this mod for a friend. This was the look he wanted. This mod uses the Ti PTR08100WVD VV chip as well as a P-channel mosfet for the touch switch. It uses 2x 18350 batteries and can use flat top or button type. Voltage ranges from about 3.5 to 6.5. The voltage display will only come on when the second button is pressed along with the touch switch. voltage reading is for output only. I put a mini lava tube along side it for size comparison. The mod is 8.5" tall. The tank on top is called the "Non Practical Tank" It was made by a guy from DFW Vapor in Texas. The tank holds about 30 mils of juice Yeah I know it's a little extreme but sometimes it's fun to be unique. Thanks again breaktru.

Wonderful work and a wonderful mod

Welcome back to the forum. It's been awhile since we've seen your great mods

utak3r · « **Reply #87 on:** March 08, 2013, 10:27:44 AM »

Quote from: Learfx on March 08, 2013, 09:07:48 AM

The tank holds about 30 mils of juice

I made for myself 10ml tank once, but it wasn't very practical....

Quote from: Learfx on March 08, 2013, 09:07:48 AM

and once again: the design is just beautiful

just like that

shanen35 · « **Reply #88 on:** March 08, 2013, 10:32:20 AM »

Quote from: Learfx on March 08, 2013, 09:07:48 AM

Hello, I made this mod for a friend.
The tank on top is called the "Non Practical Tank" It was made by a guy from DFW Vapor in Texas. The tank holds about 30 mils of juice Yeah I know it's a little extreme but sometimes it's fun to be unique. Thanks again breaktru.

That is beautiful Lear.

OMG! The tank is huge. You are right about Non Practical

kd0afk · « **Reply #89 on:** March 08, 2013, 10:44:29 AM »

The tank looks like a drip oiler.

Learfx · « **Reply #90 on:** March 08, 2013, 01:21:34 PM »

The tank is 2" tall by 1 1/2" wide. The top and bottom caps are made of delrin and the tube is poly carbonate. It actually belongs to the guy I made the mod for. He couldn't find a ce2 that would fit it so he sent it to me to make it work.

Breaktru · « **Reply #91 on:** March 08, 2013, 02:23:34 PM »

The tank would look good on my mini mod

fsors · « **Reply #92 on:** March 08, 2013, 03:53:59 PM »

Hey nice mod Learfx don't know about that tank though. check my most recent copper out here:
http://breaktru.com/smf/index.php/topic,768.0.html

kd0afk · « **Reply #93 on:** March 08, 2013, 04:26:06 PM »

It's now been how long? I'm not sure but there is absolutely NO corrosion, oxidation or any visible change in either of the brass disk or the penny. As a matter of fact, the inside of my brass tank is shinier than the outside. I think that the plastic that atomizer tanks are made of would get hot and be more of a hazard than a brass tank.
With that said, I will be making the metal part of my tanks out of stainless steel.
The plan for Prometheus is an aluminum battery tube and top cone, stainless steel tank core, brass bottom and switch. I will have options like gun blued body and top with stainless tank and brass fittings. I have incorporated a magnetic spring, spring loaded battery contact plunger (not just a spring) delrin and silicone insulators and seals. It's gonna be a looker.

CraigHB · « **Reply #94 on:** March 08, 2013, 05:24:30 PM »

I've had no issue with brass or copper or nickel. Don't understand why people have a problem with those metals. The only metal people don't seem to have a problem with is SS, but it's a crappy electrical conductor. Brass, copper, nickel, and aluminum are all excellent conductors.

fsors · « **Reply #95 on:** March 09, 2013, 02:23:22 AM »

Quote from: CraigHB on March 08, 2013, 05:24:30 PM

I've had no issue with brass or copper or nickel. Don't understand why people have a problem with those metals. The only metal people don't seem to have a problem with is SS, but it's a crappy electrical conductor. Brass, copper, nickel, and aluminum are all excellent conductors.

I agree 100% Craig. They must think their water pipes are made of SS or something?

utak3r · « **Reply #96 on:** March 09, 2013, 02:33:34 PM »

As for the battery mod I have to fully agree (but only for battery mods). However, copper ones sometimes can give a bit of a smell to your hand, also a bit of a greenish colour, especially if a hand is sweaty. But yes, it's easily washed and no bigger problems with it. Personally I've also had no problems with aluminium nor copper (however aluminium gets very quickly oxidized, which is not visible to us).

Of course, this doesn't apply to atomizer mods...

fsors · « **Reply #97 on:** March 10, 2013, 03:33:00 AM »

I use copper mods all the time and my hands never gets any green but maybe everyone has a different ph level or such?

Dznutz · « **Reply #98 on:** March 10, 2013, 12:36:54 PM »

Quote from: fsors on March 10, 2013, 03:33:00 AM

I use copper mods all the time and my hands never gets any green but maybe everyone has a different ph level or such?

Yeah

You can always get clear coat in matte finish to protect the copper and your hand if a person wanted 2.

kd0afk · « **Reply #99 on:** March 10, 2013, 12:49:00 PM »

Quote from: Dznutz on March 10, 2013, 12:36:54 PM

Yeah

You can always get clear coat in matte finish to protect the copper and your hand if a person wanted 2.

Also, you can chrome brass without the nickel. Way better than clear coat.