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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #100 on: February 23, 2014, 06:39:35 PM »
I tried to compare Craig's drawing here http://breaktru.com/smf/index.php/topic,988.msg10030.html#msg10030 with Fat Daddy's and it just confused me  :facepalm:

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #101 on: February 23, 2014, 06:53:56 PM »
Good at least I'm not alone here lol, the part thats confusing me the most is the bottom piece, looks like it holds the spring and all that into the connector but I can't tell how it will look. One thing that would be sweet is if the overall diameter could be brought up to 22mm or even 23mm to match kayfuns, tiafuns gennies etc. I mean we are not all drippers that use the dna or other box mods so having a flush fitting 510 all around would be nice. 22mm is ideal givin that the majority of atomizers are this big. Maybe this could be an option??

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #102 on: February 24, 2014, 12:37:05 PM »
I took a look and even modeled it up.

First there is a dependency in the drawing....which ends up being a fairly important




Modeled up (I guessed at what I thought the above questioned dims should be.....and I didn't include the spring/2mm bolt/connection tabs/10mm nut)

You can see at my assumed dims that the pin floats between 4.25mm and 5mm. IMHO this should be 0.175" (~4.5mm) at the middle of the travel, which it is close to if my assumed dims are accurate.

It depends on the spring, but it looks like there is room for 1.5mm of travel compared to the .75mm shown.

If it were me I would increase the insulator ledge diameter to match the bottom brass part diameter.

On the main stainless housing I would suggest 12.5mm (0.492") diameter instead of 15mm. That way you could use a 1/2" counter bore or etc if you wanted to flush mount the connector.

It's all going to depend on the springs conductivity....it would be nice if the spring and brass parts were coated with a high conductive coating. 






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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #103 on: February 24, 2014, 12:55:34 PM »
Great post baps, clears a lot up.

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #104 on: February 24, 2014, 05:28:29 PM »
Excellent work there baps. Thanks for your input

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #105 on: February 24, 2014, 05:42:03 PM »
Excellent work there baps. Thanks for your input

I'm down for a good solution as it will save me a bunch of time. I still like the spring pins, I tested them over the weekend and they came out right as specified 10mOhm.

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #106 on: February 24, 2014, 10:35:26 PM »
Hey Bap
Very nice drawing and comments! Echo's some of my concerns. Thanks for the better visuals. Wish I had your skills with that CAD. All good things in time.

Dang!  Doh: Wish I’d waited a little more time but hadn’t heard or seen any additional ideas or suggestion and sent the following reply to Fat Daddy (Dennis) this morning with suggested changes from Craig.

“Hi Dennis
After looking at your drawing more this weekend something just didn’t seem right and it dawned on me that we’re trying to make this harder than it need be. I know you’re coming from the Mech Mod side of vaping that generally requires an adjustable pin that adjusts from the bottom of the 510 connector and we’re (box/custom modders) are looking for an adjustable pin on the top side of the 510 because we don’t have access to the bottom. While the threaded insulator sounded good I’m not sure it would be a benefit over the press-fit insulator with a small adjustable center screw inserted in the brass press-fit contact pin as shown. After all there’s not much if any torque required for the slotted screw driver adjustment at that point. While the floating pin idea sounds good I feel it entertains too many possible points of failure and a simpler mechanical screw would be more reliable.
As for Positive/Negative solder or connection points. Positive: we solder to bottom of the brass pin as there is little or no movement. I’ve made a change to the drawings for a bit deeper well (from 1.2mm to 1.6mm). Negative: we solder to the brass nut as soldering to SS is tough for most. As we’re not running Mech Mods soldering is legal. LOL!
I’d like to see this go with the 510 connector PDF I sent you with press-fit parts except for the threaded adjustable center pin on the brass contact post and the outside threads with brass nut on the connector base. There are a few changes that I’ve hand drawn and attached. I don’t do CAD type drawing. Can ya tell? LOL!

http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/Littlefeather_Design/library/?sort=3&page=1


One other change that didn’t make it on my excellent drawing is lowering the height of the insulator top from 1.6mm to 1.5mm.
With the changes I’ve mentioned I believe you’ll have a very popular and marketable 510 connector for both retail and wholesale modders and will make a lot of people very happy and make a nice addition to your product line.
Please advise.
Sincerely”

I haven’t heard back yet and will let you know when I do.

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #107 on: February 24, 2014, 10:56:54 PM »
I also ran across these knife makers rivets and thought they might be used with a little tap & die work to get an adjustable pin. I've got some on order and want to play with to see what I can do.

http://www.knifemaking.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=cutler+rivets

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #108 on: February 25, 2014, 09:41:41 PM »
Hey All

Talked with Dennis (Fat Daddy) today and he's aware of the wrong dimensions in the drawing. Thanks to Bap for the heads up.

We had a good chat and think you'll all be happy with the product to come. Don't have a exact timetable yet but will keep you advised.

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #109 on: February 26, 2014, 06:22:51 AM »
This is great news, Thank you. And thank you Baps

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #110 on: February 26, 2014, 09:58:13 AM »
Breaktru check your PM's.  ;cheers;

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #111 on: February 26, 2014, 01:41:02 PM »
if you wanted to flush mount the connector.

That's exactly what I want, thanks for the suggestion!  :thumbsup:

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #112 on: March 07, 2014, 02:40:32 AM »
Thought this might interest some of you here. Breaktru I hope this is OK to post here, if not let me know. There is a group buy running on Facebook for some stainless 510 connectors. (I am not the runner.) I slightly modified Craig's original design and came up with this. Includes 4 pieces, post, insulator, nickel plated stainless steel 304 base and 22mm well. The total is already at 750 and I'm sure it will fill up in no time. Again, if this is not allowed, let me know Breaktru. Thanks.

"MOQ is 1000
1000 = 1.75 Each
$1.75 base
$2.50 shipping
$2 incidentials
Includes bubble wrap envelopes and any other supplies
3% paypal fee
$6.55 Total for 1!

So if you wanted 2, it would be $1.75 each($3.50) plus $4.50 for a total of $8. * .03 = $.24. $7.50 + .24 is $7.74

Shipping will be first class no exceptions unless you have a very large quantity.

This is also being run in the DNA group.

I will take POPMONEY (paypal to those I trust and have dealt with before)
I will send Money Request or Invoices When we are Close to the MOQ

RULES: 1. You must fill out BOTH FORMS, if you do not do so, i will Automatically Drop you
2. Payment must be made within 48 hours of Request sent, or you will be dropped. DO NOT SIGN UP IF YOU DO NOT INTEND TO PAY!! follow !
3. NO MENTION OF ECIGS ON PAYPAL!!!!!!!

BOTH FORMS MUST BE FILLED OUT!

Sign up form:
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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #113 on: March 07, 2014, 07:16:17 AM »
Who is this guy running the co-op? How do I know I can trust him?
I'm not comfortable using popmoney. I would rather use paypal.

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #114 on: March 07, 2014, 02:50:54 PM »
Who is this guy running the co-op? How do I know I can trust him?
I'm not comfortable using popmoney. I would rather use paypal.

^This

Also why is this so hard to understand
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So if you wanted 2, it would be $1.75 each($3.50) plus $4.50 for a total of $8. * .03 = $.24. $7.50 + .24 is $7.74

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #115 on: March 09, 2014, 04:17:35 PM »
That's OK, I'll stick with what FatDaddy is(hopefully) doing.  Sick of co-ops (might see the product in 9 months)

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #116 on: March 14, 2014, 07:59:58 AM »
I am just using the sealed 510 connectors and replacing the rubber grommet with these: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261408834269?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

They cover the hole bottom length of the center pin and they just drop into the hole so no fiddling getting them in.

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #117 on: March 14, 2014, 09:00:56 AM »
I am just using the sealed 510 connectors and replacing the rubber grommet with these: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261408834269?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

They cover the hole bottom length of the center pin and they just drop into the hole so no fiddling getting them in.

Thanks for the link Romelee, I've been using the black To220 insulator but they are a little to rigid.
I used one of the fastteck 510 top caps that you linked in my latest build, I'll post a photo of it later.

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #118 on: April 01, 2014, 05:17:10 PM »
Just found these! Replaces the crap silicone insulator on the 510 connector with a delrin one and includes a silver plated 510 pin. I'll definitely be ordering these soon!




http://www.avidvaper.com/510-connector-rigid-insulator-and-silver-plated-center-post/

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #119 on: April 01, 2014, 06:09:14 PM »
Just found these! Replaces the crap silicone insulator on the 510 connector with a delrin one and includes a silver plated 510 pin. I'll definitely be ordering these soon!

Interesting.
Still leaves the dreaded thread wear problem though

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #120 on: April 02, 2014, 05:22:51 PM »
The Delrin insualtor helps for sure though.  Though it's not tolerant to soldering.  Thread wear is not always a problem, depends on how much you remove and replace your atomizer.  Still it's always better to have something you know will never wear out.

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #121 on: April 05, 2014, 05:51:51 AM »
Any news on the spring loaded 510 connector being made by fatdaddy?

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #122 on: April 05, 2014, 05:58:07 AM »
BTW, nice design on the 510 connector Craig. I was fixing to ask you if I could use your design and have a machine shop make me some but then I stumbled across this thread and I like the modified version of your design with the spring loaded center pin that bapgood implemented and I'm looking for this exact connector for my prototype DNA 30 Wood box mod for production. ;cheers;
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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #123 on: April 12, 2014, 03:29:01 PM »
Wow, did this thread come to a halt?

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #124 on: April 13, 2014, 08:55:47 AM »
Wow, did this thread come to a halt?

I think they are waiting on Fatdaddy for an update  :Thinking:

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #125 on: May 13, 2014, 11:43:50 PM »
Stainless

Cheap

2 choices

Wewt!

http://www.fasttech.com/products/1411/10005381/1565103
http://www.fasttech.com/products/1411/10005381/1589801

I ordered one of the $9.00 ones to check out, will report back on quality of threading. 
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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #126 on: May 21, 2014, 07:27:22 PM »

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #127 on: May 21, 2014, 07:47:32 PM »
That's awesome, how the hell did he get them made cheap enough to sell for $5, a bargain at twice the price.

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #128 on: May 21, 2014, 07:54:55 PM »
I heard that he had around 2600 made so that could be why.
I picked up 3 to try out, can't wait to see how they are.

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #129 on: May 21, 2014, 08:34:13 PM »
That's a big number, but even with that quantity the price is still amazing.

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #130 on: May 21, 2014, 08:56:37 PM »
Hi everybody! First time talking here.. lot of time reading and learning and reading again.. I´m spanish, so my english it´s not so good. It´s not easy for me to write nor learning.

I want to say thank you to all of you for your information and schematics, etc.. Breaktru, CraigHB, Visus, Mamu, etc, etc.. Everybody.

Thanks Breaktru for this great forum, your great posts, your schematics. CraigHB.. your knowledge is amazing! And I just ordered 2 of yor connectors  :begging:

I did never solder or did nothing with electronics, and now I´m about finshing an okr-t10 mod. I hope soon i´ll post some fotos. And I hope someday maybe i´ll help someone else to make one.

Thankyou again !  ;cheers;


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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #131 on: May 21, 2014, 09:01:59 PM »
I heard that he had around 2600 made so that could be why.
I picked up 3 to try out, can't wait to see how they are.
Actually he has another 5000 on the way so that would explain the cost.

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #132 on: May 21, 2014, 09:38:42 PM »
Dumb question, but does he say anywhere what the body is made of?  I can see what is brass, and I'm assuming the body is stainless, but I don't see it mentioned anywhere...

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #133 on: May 22, 2014, 01:18:39 AM »
I was told it's 303 Stainless Steel for the body of the 510 connector.

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #134 on: May 22, 2014, 07:47:56 AM »
Hi everybody! First time talking here.. lot of time reading and learning and reading again.. I´m spanish, so my english it´s not so good. It´s not easy for me to write nor learning.

I want to say thank you to all of you for your information and schematics, etc.. Breaktru, CraigHB, Visus, Mamu, etc, etc.. Everybody.

Thanks Breaktru for this great forum, your great posts, your schematics. CraigHB.. your knowledge is amazing! And I just ordered 2 of yor connectors  :begging:

I did never solder or did nothing with electronics, and now I´m about finshing an okr-t10 mod. I hope soon i´ll post some fotos. And I hope someday maybe i´ll help someone else to make one.

Thankyou again !  ;cheers;


Glad to have you here on the forum.

Looking forward to seeing your mod posted

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #135 on: May 22, 2014, 08:55:45 PM »
I was told it's 303 Stainless Steel for the body of the 510 connector.

In for 4 then!

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #136 on: May 24, 2014, 09:16:54 AM »
Yep, just ordered 3.  I guess my build can wait until next weekend...

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #137 on: May 24, 2014, 09:52:09 AM »
I ordered 7 of them to start out with and I'll order more later

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #138 on: June 04, 2014, 01:46:59 PM »
Wow both the 510 inserts & new spring loaded connectors from fatdaddyapes are sold out.

Modified 510 inserts:

* Brass machine screw - 6-32 x 3/4"

* Spring - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005KSOIXW/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i03?ie=UTF8&psc=1

* Washer - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FMYWSO/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i02?ie=UTF8&psc=1

* O-ring - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001D8A3IM/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #139 on: June 06, 2014, 10:33:59 PM »
I got my 4 in from fatdaddy last week, I haven't really had a chance to use them yet, but upon inspection, they look NICE.  Solid, well machined, threads nicely chased, attention to detail is a 10.

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #140 on: June 08, 2014, 06:45:42 PM »
http://www.thehouseofvapor.com/product_p/2831.htm
Just found those today if you need ones before FDV has them back in.

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #141 on: June 14, 2014, 05:16:57 AM »
Fatdaddy has them back in stock yall!

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #142 on: June 26, 2014, 06:55:24 PM »
There is another spring loaded connector now available

http://www.varitube.com/510-Connector--Spring-Loaded-Center-Pin_p_141.html

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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #143 on: July 09, 2014, 10:42:33 PM »
Hay guys. I know I'm a little late to the party on these But do you think either of the fat daddy 510s could be converted for bottom feeding. I would really like to  use the one with the washer on it as I think it would be the most simple to convert. How ever I'm not sure i could fit it in a drip cup very well. Unless it would work without one. I have converted the cheap 510s from mad vapes but was looking for something a bit nicer and longer lasting this time. I found these but they are out of stock and there is no ETA on restock. http://www.thehouseofvapor.com/product_p/2831.htm

any help or impute is appreciated. thanks 
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Re: Source for quality 510 connectors?
« Reply #144 on: July 10, 2014, 11:02:42 PM »
No one?

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